Understood. Trying not to think about the psychological issues apparent in this.....Perhaps that's why I had a good 30 year run in the PC business.....being both a stubborn as hell investigator and a psychologist.
Western Digital/Sandisk SSD: never again
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Late to the pitchforks....but hell yes.
Samsung fridge, broke 3 times, once almost every year. Bad sensor, about $100 to replace. When it dies forever, I will store food in hole in the ground with ice before ever buying Samsung again.
Samsung washer (top loader), broke under warranty the first month. Ripped long sleeve shirts due to poor design. I gave it away and bought a Bosh Serie 8....THE BEST front loader I have ever used (had LG before, it was good). The basic 15 minute wash will literally clean anything I throw in.
What I do trust Samsung on are cell phones, tvs, and SSDs. All of my Samsung drives even the one that is about 10 years old, are still kicking. I wouldn't hesitate to put another Samsung drive in.
I did just have a WD 4TB drive die unexpectedly last week. Still passes a SMART report but running the WD diagnostic tool results in "too many faults" and just stops. I was more pissed that I bought a SMR drive and didn't pay attention. Will replace it with a Seagate CMR drive.
Man and here I thought that WD HDDs were better then Seagate.
All drives fail eventually, the plural of anecdote is not data. I would not stress about any single report you read here.
To be honest, I stopped reading about HDDs ever since I went to SSDs back in 2013 for a build.
For low-cost mass storage where performance doesn't matter much they still beat SSDs. You just can't get a 22TB SSD for consumers, and even as far down as 8TB, an SSD can be 8 times the cost of a desktop HDD. It just comes down to your individual needs. But both HDDs and SSDs fail at what seems to be random rates unless there is an ongoing manufacturing defect, and sometimes a particular brand does go too cheap in the construction of either type. They way the brands deal with issues is just as important as whether they have issues. A brand that has lots of failures all the time (relative to others) like Seagate becomes a bad choice even if they have a good RMA process, and a brand that has few failures generally but responds terribly when there is a sudden burst of bad drives goes on the bad list (like Samsung).
I had a Samsung washer. It was terrible. It beat my clothes to shit without getting them clean. I did like the SIlverCare (injecting silver ions into the water to kill bacteria) but it needed SilverCare because it didn't really get the clothes clean.
I had a white bathrobe that was looking incredibly dingy after a year or so. It brightened up tremendously after the first wash with the replacement LG, and eventually returned to being white again. The difference was remarkable. And my clothes lasted tremendously longer in the LG. They wore out so fast in that stupid Samsung.
I'll never buy anything they make again. I considered one of their monitors two or three years back, and the complaints were just crazy. The Odyssey G8 I was thinking about apparently would go kind of nuts if you displayed certain patterns on the screen.
What kind of garbage engineering can't even take bits from the input and put them on the screen verbatim?
Just remember. Tech flaws are a never ending cycle. No company is immune. There's a reason why Samsung sold their HDD division to Seagate back in the early 2000's. I had some of those really cheap at the time 80GB hdd's and had a few that died for no apparent reason.. And it wasn't worth getting paying for data recovery. But you're bored as a young tech with time to kill. So you take a few of them. Hook them up and see what happens when you throw a spinning drive against floor a few times. And behold. A working drive. Where immediately i get the data off of it and repeat this process.
I even had a 1TB WD SATA SSD in m.2 form factor come DOA out of the box. Newegg didn't believe me. They wouldn't take a return. So i had to go through the process of RMAing it with WD. And i'm going to assume an attempt to buy my silence. They sent me a 2TB version back.
I even had a 1TB WD SATA SSD in m.2 form factor come DOA out of the box. Newegg didn't believe me. They wouldn't take a return. So i had to go through the process of RMAing it with WD. And i'm going to assume an attempt to buy my silence. They sent me a 2TB version back.
Just a side note. They got you suckered partially on marketing.. They're running it though a water filter that's embeded with silver ions so bacteria doesn't grow on the filter material. While releasing ions is product of it happening. They're not injecting silver ions for the sake of making water cleaner. They're just preventing growth on the filter material so it doesn't introduce more. So if you want this miracle technology the LG claims not to have. Just put a water filter that has Silver Ions on the filter material. -edit ok no they're playing on gimmicks. They just put a stick in it..
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Well, if the water and clothing gets sloshed around so that it all touches the "stick" with silver ions on it a lot (or run through a tube with screen or stick with ions) then it could reduce the number of living bacteria. But I imagine it would need to be quite a large surface area to really ensure there is enough contact for a long enough time to really do much with a full load. So it's a gimmick based on something real at least. If they made the agitator silver-coated that would probably be pretty effective. Or for top-loading HE machines, put multiple wide stripes along the inside of the tub, and maybe coat the "fins" inside a front-loader or put stripes in. Don't know how much additional cost it would be to include that much silver. (I don't even understand how it doesn't run out over time or get de-ionized or clogged with dead bacteria bits.)
I don't know how SilverCare actually worked, but it needed refills every few years, per the docs. That doesn't sound like just a filter. And they did talk about actively adding silver to the water.